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Ranches to Rockets Ft. Jim Eckles (Part 2)
Jun 12, 2025
Welcome to the latest episode of Preserving History and Democracy!
We’re excited to welcome back author and historian Jim Eckles for Part 2 of our Ranches to Rockets series. In this episode, Eckles continues to unravel the fascinating—and often overlooked—story of how southern New Mexico became ground zero for America’s early rocket testing.
He begins by explaining the skepticism and resistance to the concept of rockets in the early 1940s. From there, we explore how Germany quickly embraced rocketry as a weapon of war, and how the United States soon followed suit—identifying Alamogordo as a prime location for testing.
Eckles details the growing tensions as local ranchers were asked to vacate their lands, triggering protests and pushback. He also shares how the nearby city of Las Cruces initially met the project with hesitation, but gradually warmed to the idea once the economic benefits became clear.
We also meet key figures in the story, including Colonel Turner and his role in the project’s development. Eckles walks us through the dramatic highs and lows of the V-2 rocket launches, and discusses the ongoing legacy of the sounding rocket program still active at White Sands Missile Range today.
He sheds light on the fate of displaced ranchers, the government’s eventual decision to buy out the land after failed land-sharing attempts, and the contentious congressional hearings that followed when ranchers felt shortchanged by the deal. Eckles even brings historical documents to share with the hosts—offering a tangible link to this complex chapter of local history.
Finally, the episode wraps up with a thoughtful conversation about how this story remains largely unknown within Doña Ana County, and how it continues to shape the region’s identity.
Watch here: https://youtu.be/QtB0xxgOew8?si=JnARD5nxoa51sxur
Special Guest: Jim Eckles
Hosted by: Bernardine Caporale, Caroline Zamora
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
Ranches to Rockets Ft. Jim Eckles (Part 1)
June 05, 2025
Welcome to the latest episode of Preserving History and Democracy! This week, we're joined by author and historian Jim Eckles for a fascinating look into the history of ranching in Doña Ana County.
Eckles begins by sharing his background and what drew him to study the region's ranching heritage. He then explores how ranching was even possible in such a desert environment, detailing the creative ways ranchers overcame harsh conditions, scarce water, and isolation.
You'll hear about the practical challenges ranchers faced—from leasing land to the government to survive financially, to the devastating impact of droughts on cattle. Eckles also recounts the inventive solutions families used to secure running water and keep food fresh in the intense New Mexico heat.
Education was another major hurdle, and Eckles shares how ranching families made it a priority for their children despite remote locations.
As the episode progresses, we discuss how World War II dramatically shifted the landscape: from land leases to the U.S. government in 1942 to the creation of military training centers after Pearl Harbor—and the missteps in how the transition was handled.
Finally, we look at how technology transformed the ranching lifestyle, setting the stage for Part 2, coming next week.
Don't miss this deep dive into the past—rich with personal stories, historical insight, and the enduring spirit of the American Southwest.
Watch Here: https://youtu.be/AajzJI-OtzU
Hosted by: Bernardine Caporale, Caroline Zamora
Special Guest: Jim Eckles
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza, Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob slaughter
Business Spotlight: Moy Surveying Ft. Anton Magallanez
May 29, 2025
Welcome to another episode of Preserving History and Democracy!
In this episode, we shine a spotlight on an essential local business in Doña Ana County: Moy Surveying. Our guest, Anton Magallanez, joins us to share his personal journey, the story behind Moy Surveying, and the vital role land surveyors play in our communities.
Anton walks us through what a typical day in the life of a surveyor looks like and explains why the surveying process is so critical. He breaks down the different types of surveys, demystifies legal descriptions, and clarifies the distinction between a plat of survey and a standard plat.
We also dive into how Moy Surveying collaborates with various county departments—including Community Development and the Clerk's Office—to ensure subdivisions are accurately documented and properly developed. For homeowners wondering how to locate a copy of their property survey, Anton offers practical advice on where to look, especially if it wasn't recorded with the deed.
To wrap up, Anton reflects on the broader significance of surveying and why this work is foundational to land ownership, planning, and preserving community history.
**Disclaimer: The information provided in this episode is for general informational purposes only and should not be considered legal advice. For guidance specific to your situation, please consult a qualified attorney.
Watch here: https://youtu.be/G-TX0472PIc
Hosted by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza
Special guest: Anton Magallanez, Moy Surveying
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza, Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
Doña Ana Village Historic Preservation Committee Ft. Triano Jasso
May 15, 2025
Welcome to another episode of Preserving History and Democracy!
In this episode, we’re joined by a very special guest—Triano Jasso, secretary of the Doña Ana Village Historic Preservation Committee. Triano shares how his lifelong passion for history led him to get involved in preserving the rich heritage of Doña Ana.
We begin with an introduction to Triano and his role on the committee, followed by an inside look at the committee’s work and their efforts to keep local history alive. Triano then shares his take on how the village of Doña Ana got its name.
He also walks us through the committee’s mission statement and highlights the many community partners they’ve worked with. From there, we dive into the preservation of the village church—an important historical project—and explore the story behind the De La O Center, including Triano’s personal family connection to the site.
To wrap things up, Triano offers valuable resources and ways you can support the committee’s future projects.
Don’t miss this insightful conversation about the power of community, memory, and honoring the past to shape our future!
Fundraiser link: Fundraiser by Dona Ana Village Historic Preservation Committee : Help Protect Doña Ana's Historic Cemetery
Watch here: https://youtu.be/jP0QjGtWryE
Hosted by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza
Special guest: Triano Jasso
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza, Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
Bellamah Homes Ft. Jerry Wallace
May 07, 2025
Welcome to another captivating episode of Preserving History and Democracy!
In this episode, we’re joined by historian Dr. Jerry Wallace as we explore the legacy of developer Dale Bellamah and the pivotal role his homes played in shaping the identity of Las Cruces.
Dr. Wallace begins by sharing what first sparked his interest in Bellamah, including a personal connection to the developer. He then traces the origins of Bellamah Homes and explains how Bellamah was ahead of his time—particularly in his innovative marketing strategies.
We’ll also unpack the concept of "translocality" and what it meant for residents living in Bellamah homes. Dr. Wallace walks us through the design of a typical Bellamah house and offers insight into how the idea of homeownership evolved during the Cold War, transforming New Mexico’s infrastructure.
He then explores the three major Bellamah developments in Las Cruces, highlighting how each differs in style and purpose. You’ll also learn about the unique influence Bellamah’s wife had on the design and function of these homes.
Finally, Dr. Wallace reflects on Dale Bellamah’s passing and the lasting legacy he left behind.
Watch here: https://youtu.be/SuBkjZyIEu0
Hosted by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza
Special Guest: Jerry Wallace Ph. D.
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza, Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
The Mystery of Mary Waters
May 01, 2025
Welcome to the latest episode of Preserving History and Democracy! In this episode, we’re joined by Salvatore Patricolo, a local historian and member of the Doña Ana County Historical Society. Sal kicks things off by sharing his personal journey and what led him to Doña Ana County.
He then introduces us to the story of Mary Waters, discussing how a 'ghost story' evolved into a fascinating research project. Sal goes on to uncover who Mary Waters was, providing important context behind her life and legacy.
Next, Sal paints a vivid picture of the city during the time of Mary’s death, highlighting the significance of the landscape in understanding her story. He walks us through the fateful night of Mary’s passing, explaining the records and research he uncovered in his investigation.
Sal also delves into the aftermath of Mary’s death, revealing where she was laid to rest. He shares why uncovering the truth behind the ghost story of the old county jail became so important to him.
Later, Sal and the hosts discuss the significance of researching some of the county’s oldest graves. Sal then reflects on Mary’s lasting legacy, noting how her children thrived despite the tragedy that marked their mother's life.
Lastly, Sal gives us a peek into some research projects he has coming up.
Watch here: https://youtu.be/fXjdQU_oxBE
Hosted by: Caroline Zamora, Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza
Special guest: Salvatore Patricolo
Produced by: Jacob Slaughter, Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
The Village of Doña Ana Ft. David Thomas
April 24, 2025
Welcome to the latest installment of Preserving History and Democracy! In this episode, we’re excited to welcome back local historian David Thomas as we explore the rich past of the village of Doña Ana.
David begins by sharing the fascinating origin of the village's name and what life was like for its earliest settlers. He then takes us on a journey through the history of Doña Ana's historic church, explaining how it was named and the story behind its iconic bell—a treasured gift from a neighboring village.
Next, Mr. Thomas dives into the legacy of one of the oldest courthouses in the area, uncovering its role in shaping local governance. He also discusses how the village's layout developed over time and highlights the critical importance of the community ditch, which was vital to the village’s survival.
To wrap up, Cynthia and Bern reflect on their visit to Doña Ana and the significance of preserving the stories that live on in some of the oldest corners of the county.
Watch here: https://youtu.be/aLUBDnN_MpQ?si=NyA1r6DcCGQGbeZI
Hosted by: Cynthia Mendoza, Bernardine Caporale
Special Guest: David Thomas
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza, Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
Office of the Probate Pt. 2 Ft. Judge Judith Baca and Johnathan Macias
April 17, 2025
Welcome to another episode of Preserving History and Democracy!
In this episode, Bern and Cynthia are joined by Judge Judith Ann Baca from the Office of the Probate, along with Assistant County Manager Johnathan Macias.
Judge Baca begins by sharing a bit about herself and her role within the Probate Office. She then explains the key differences between probate handled by the County Clerk’s Office and probate cases processed through the District Court.
Mr. Macias follows up with valuable insight into why it’s important to have an estate plan in place while you're still of sound mind.
Judge Baca then walks us through the process of opening a probate case, including which documents are required. She also discusses how long it typically takes to open a case and how long it might take to resolve matters through the Probate Office.
In addition, Judge Baca explains what happens when there's a dispute in a probate case and why such cases are transferred to the District Court.
Finally, she shares the contact information and office hours for the Office of the Probate, so you know where to go for help or questions.
Tune in for a helpful and informative conversation on planning ahead and navigating the probate process!
Disclaimer: The information provided in this episode is for general informational purposes only and should not be considered legal advice. For guidance specific to your situation, please consult a qualified attorney.
Hosted by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza
Special Guests: Judge Judith Ann Baca, Johnathan Macias
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza and Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
Watch here: https://youtu.be/oCWC2jowTHc?si=3iePGCnf3SiHLKCt
Indigenous History of Doña Ana County Ft. Dr. Gregorio Gonzales
April 10, 2025
Welcome to the latest episode of Preserving History and Democracy! In this episode, your hosts Cynthia and Bern are joined by special guest Dr. Gregorio Gonzales, Ph.D., to explore the Indigenous history of Doña Ana County and New Mexico.
Dr. Gonzales begins by highlighting New Mexico's state song, offering a glimpse into the state's rich historical tapestry. He then takes us on a journey through the Mesilla Valley, sharing insights into the tribes that have historically traversed this region and the deep-rooted Indigenous heritage of Doña Ana County.
Next, Dr. Gonzales emphasizes New Mexico's unique distinction of housing numerous federally recognized tribes and discusses the ongoing efforts needed to ensure Native American communities have access to the resources they deserve.
Dr. Gonzales also reflects on his decision to become an educator and underscores the importance of preserving Indigenous history in our schools. He further sheds light on the role Native American tribes played during the founding of the United States and how historical narratives have often misrepresented Indigenous peoples.
Finally, Dr. Gonzales offers a powerful perspective on the Native American experience, stressing the critical need to amplify Indigenous voices.
Tune in for an enlightening and thought-provoking conversation about the significance of Indigenous history in shaping our collective past and future!
Watch here: https://youtu.be/-frsFAe8GLY
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Hosted by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza
Special Guest: Gregorio Gonzales Ph.D.
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza and Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
Ranches of Doña Ana ft. Dale Owens
April 3, 2025
Welcome to the latest episode of Preserving History and Democracy!
In this fascinating installment, we’re joined by Dale Owens, a historian and former rancher, who shares his extensive knowledge of some of the county’s oldest ranches.
The episode begins with a personal introduction as Mr. Owens reflects on his own family history and their deep roots in the region. He then takes us on a journey through the mysterious killing of legendary lawman Pat Garrett, sharing riveting stories passed down through generations of his own relatives.
Next, Mr. Owens delves into the intriguing murder trial surrounding Garrett’s death, uncovering how those involved crafted deliberate falsehoods to evade justice. The conversation also shifts to the story of A.B. Fall and the mysterious disappearance of Albert Fountain, adding another layer of history.
Mr. Owens then paints a vivid picture of ranch life, recounting tales from families who lived near the mountains, and how these ranches were later repurposed as test sites for rocket development during the 1940s.
As the episode draws to a close, Mr. Owens reflects on how these once-thriving ranching families lost their land but preserved the invaluable stories and memories that continue to shape their legacy today.
Tune in for a compelling mix of history, family tales, and the untold stories of the American West.
Hosted by: Bernardine Caporale. Caroline Zamora and Cynthia Mendoza
Special Guest: Dale Owens
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza and Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob slaughter
Watch here: https://youtu.be/rAHrW57Dc3I
Amanda López Askin & Maggie Toulouse Oliver on Women in History and Politics
March 28, 2025
Welcome to the latest episode of Preserving History and Democracy! In this special conversation, County Clerk Amanda López Askin is joined by New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver for an insightful discussion on the vital role women play in both history and politics.
They begin by exploring the unique leadership qualities that make women exceptional leaders and how these qualities shape their effectiveness in political roles. The conversation then turns to the specific obstacles women face in politics, including the critiques and challenges that often differ from those faced by their male counterparts.
Amanda and Maggie also share their advice for younger women navigating the world today, emphasizing the importance of mentorship, resilience, and self-empowerment. They highlight the value of female friendships, the power of communication, and how these bonds can foster success and solidarity.
Finally, the conversation wraps up with a powerful discussion on the significance of elections and why voting is especially crucial for women. Tune in to hear these two inspiring leaders share their insights on leadership, overcoming challenges, and the impact of women's voices in shaping our democracy.
Hosted by: Amanda López Askin
Special Guest: Maggie Toulouse Oliver
Produced by: Caroline Zamora and Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
Watch here: https://youtu.be/JmmLd7RG7gs?si=SFuNdezbtlYn7_QJ
Business Spotlight: Southwest Skydive
March 20, 2025
Welcome to the latest episode of Preserving History and Democracy! In this episode, we shine a spotlight on a local business: Southwest Skydive! Join host Bern and she talks to Cameron and Jaziel, owners of the newly established Doña Ana business, as they share the journey behind starting Southwest Skydive. They dive into how the idea for the business came to life and the steps they took to bring it to reality, including navigating the process with the County, specifically the Clerk’s office. Cameron and Jaziel also share some of the highs (and challenges) of their experience since launching the business. They take us through what a typical skydiving adventure looks like and explain some of the essential equipment used. Finally, they share their vision for the future of Southwest Skydive and where they see the business heading.
Hosted by: Bernardine Caporale
Special Guests: Cameron Fontenot, Jaziel Zamorano
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
St. Genevieve Ft. Rosemary Leyva
March 13, 2025
Welcome to the latest episode of Preserving History and Democracy! In this episode, we sit down with Rosemary Leyva—historian and devoted parishioner of St. Genevieve Catholic Church—who has spent years uncovering and preserving the rich history of the parish. Rosemary shares her personal journey and how her fascination with the church’s past began.
Together, we explore the origins of St. Genevieve Catholic Church, including its original location and the story behind its move to its current home. Rosemary also sheds light on the legacy of St. Genevieve herself and why the church bears her name. We discuss what was preserved from the original building and how these treasured pieces of history continue to connect the parish community to its roots.
Finally, we reflect on the importance of preserving these stories for future generations and look ahead to what the future holds for St. Genevieve Catholic Church.
Join us for this heartfelt conversation about history, and the enduring power of community memory.
Hosted by: Angelica Valenzuela, Bernardine Caporale, Caroline Zamora
Special Guest: Rosemary Leyva
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza, Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
Watch here: https://youtu.be/P2zzUmLq4ZI
Bureau of Elections Warehouse Ft. Nicholas Moreno
March 07, 2025
Welcome to the latest episode of Preserving History and Democracy! This time, Cynthia and Bern sit down with special guest Nicholas Moreno from the Bureau of Elections Warehouse. Nick kicks things off by introducing himself and his role at the Doña Ana County Clerk's Office. He then gives us an inside look at his daily responsibilities at the warehouse and the vital work his team does to keep elections running smoothly. Finally, Nick shares his excitement about the brand-new elections warehouse set to open this summer!
Hosted by: Cynthia Mendoza, Bernardine Caporale
Special Guest: Nicholas Moreno
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza, Jacob Slaughter
Edited By: Jacob Slaughter
Watch here: https://youtu.be/bvNT53ReAwA
Business Licenses Ft. Tammy Goodman
February 26, 2026
Welcome to the latest episode of Preserving History and Democracy! In this episode, Cynthia and Bern are joined by Tammy Goodman from the Clerk's Office to discuss business licenses and the crucial role the Clerk's Office plays in ensuring businesses in the county operate legally and safely.
Tammy begins by walking us through the process of obtaining a business license, including the necessary documents to bring before visiting the Clerk's Office. She then explains the importance of business licenses and their impact on the community. Finally, the ladies discuss plans to highlight local businesses in future podcast episodes.
Tune in for an informative conversation on business licensing and community engagement!
Hosted by: Cynthia Mendoza and Bernardine Caporale
Special Guests: Tammy Goodman
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza and Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
Watch here: https://youtu.be/npmVW9Kd-Ng
Romance at the Rotunda 2025 Recap
February 20, 2025
Welcome to the latest episode of Preserving History and Democracy! In this episode, Caroline and Cynthia recap the Clerk's Office annual event and share how it all came together. They start by celebrating a new record—surpassing last year’s number of couples married at the Rotunda. Then, they dive into plans for making next year’s event even more memorable. Finally, they reflect on the joy of witnessing so many couples on one of the most special days of their lives. Tune in for an inside look at this heartwarming tradition!
Hosted by: Caroline Zamora and Cynthia Mendoza
Produced by: Cynthia Mendoza, Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
Watch here: https://youtu.be/gcu6m8AFBn8
Community Development Ft. Christopher Valencia
February 13, 2025
Welcome to the latest episode of Preserving History and Democracy! Today, we’re joined by Christopher Valencia from the Community Development department as he shares insights into their work and collaboration with the Clerk's Office.
Christopher begins by explaining the vital role Community Development plays in the County and walks us through his daily responsibilities. He then highlights recent initiatives aimed at reducing littering and improving the local environment.
Next, Christopher breaks down the process of registering a business, emphasizing how Community Development and the Clerk’s Office work together to ensure businesses file correctly. Finally, he sheds light on plats—what they are, why they matter, and their importance in properly recording property filings.
Hosted by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza
Special Guest: Christopher Valencia
Produced By: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza, Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
Watch Here: https://youtu.be/t1PcRc7m3yc?si=CWb-x1WWa7V9WtR9
Romance at the Rotunda 2025
February 06, 2025
Welcome to the latest season of Preserving History and Democracy! In this episode, we explore Romance at the Rotunda, the Clerk's Office’s annual Valentine’s Day event!
First, we sit down with Lenora Hawkins from the Clerk's Office to discuss what the event entails and how couples can participate if they’re looking to tie the knot on this special day. Then, Caroline and Cynthia are joined by Luis and Belinda, a couple who took part in last year’s event. They share their experience, reflect on their wedding day, and give us an update on married life nearly a year later.
Join us as we celebrate love, history, and the joy of Romance at the Rotunda!
Hosted By: Caroline Zamora, Cynthia Mendoza and Bernardine Caporale
Special guests: Lenora Hawkins, Luis and Belinda Vega
Produced by: Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza, Jacob Slaughter
Edited by: Jacob Slaughter
Watch here: https://youtu.be/DLcpLyGKLLU
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